Calgary drivers

Is it just me or does it seem that 1 out of every 5 drivers in calgary tries to run you off the road?

No respect for bikes on the road whatsoever (a lot of drivers anyways)... then theres the more than caring drivers that go into the other lane to pass you, or give you plenty of room.

Not just at busy times either, or necessarily busy streets have i noticed this, and i wear reflective gear and have lights.

What are your opinions on this?

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The good ones are out there

I find that the bad ones are significantly outnumbered by the good ones. I find the worst offenders are young men driving large trucks [i.e. F350 or H2], young women driving domestic compacts [i.e. Neon, Cavalier, Fiesta] and 50+ drivers of German mid/high-end cars [i.e. Audi S4, BMW 5-series]. Also, the farther I get away from downtown and rush hour, the worse the drivers get.

I also get cranky with some of my fellow cyclists for agressively filtering, and then effectively blocking traffic as they creep along at 15 km/h. That's a different rant...

HHCMF!!!

Fully agree with you!

Fully agree with you! Very acurate and true observations. Amazing!
The question is WHY? Why and what. Why these types of people behave like that and what makes them to be this sort of human(?) beings...

Any psychologists in the crowd?

I don't know why this attitude persists but I agree that a significant percentage of drivers seem to not only be oblivious to bicycles but actually have it out for them in some way. Squeeze outs, hugging the curb, sudden turns, honking for no reason... my favourite is the driver of the large diesel pickup with tinted windows who gets by you and then hammers down on the gas, spinning the tires, spraying rocks and dark clouds of soot in your face. This is even more effective when they are stopped at a light and you can't get by. I have learned to give this driver a wide berth when possible.

As for the larger percentage of drivers being not too bad, mmmm, not so sure about that. Depends on the road perhaps and maybe time of day. Some roads are wide enough that bicycles and cars conflict very little and drivers are pretty good about passing, stopping as they enter from a driveway or stop sign etc because they know they can get by you fairly easily. On narrower roads though I find that drivers quickly get impatient and make much riskier moves to get around you, or roll through stop signs or out of driveways more quickly so that they can get ahead of you. It's just ingrained in their habits, or maybe it is just a mindset that people get into when they get behind the wheel, especially if they themselves don't cycle and have not way to relate to you and your mindset on the bicycle. We are (generally) in less of a hurry on a bike and are willing to expend significantly more energy, patience, and concentration to get where we are going. Drivers are (generally), either by necessity or by choice, in much more of a hurry or are much less willing to expend energy and concentration to get where they are going. That's why they are in a car and not on a bike, or on transit, or walking etc. When you get in the way of someone who is in a hurry or is not mentally prepared to be courteous and patient and is perhaps distracted by several things like radios, telephones, children, and other drivers I don't find it surprising that there are so many conflicts and close calls.

Although I am a big advocate for bike lanes, legal reform to give more rights to bicycles, and stiffer penalties for bad drivers and cyclists alike I think the main problem is courtesy and this will not change without extensive education about the problem. We need to teach our kids from an early age how to bike safe, be courteous, and have fun. We need to teach our young/new drivers how to include cyclists on the road and the legals around that. We also need to educate the current driving population through ads and tv spots the same way many other issues are brought forward such as traffic safety (red lights, seat belts, speeding etc.), bullying, health concerns, money matters. The city of Calgary had a couple spots last summer and fall on Shaw (and possibly Global) featuring cycling issues and I hope that continues this summer. Flyers might help too although I hate the intensive use of paper to make this happen. Anyone else agree or have any ideas?

Like many of you I ride through the worst of it every year, all year, and sometimes I wish drivers would give us a little respect for our effort.

self-absorbed and entitled

generally speaking, i think that the majority of calgary drivers are couteous and will give a safe amount of space between themselves and cyclists.

whats troubling is that there are a large minority (kinda like our parliament!) that are vocal, aggresive, and sometimes downright dangerous towards cyclists. its these people that "tar" all the other decent drivers out there and - imho - lead us cyclists to think that most drivers are bad.

again - imho - there are a couple of reasons why these drivers continue to terrorize cyclists...poor road and community design over the last 30 years...lack of education of drivers regarding cyclists rights...and probably the biggest reason - the pervasive "me first at all costs" attitude that seems to drip from the psyche of many albertans. if you want evidence of this, just read some of the reader comments online at the calgary herald - especailly anything to do with taxes, snow removal, transit issues, or densification of communities.

let's train the drivers

Every time a driver waits at a side-street stop sign for me to ride by, or doesn't pull out in front of me at an intersection, or waits for his turn to make a left turn instead of crossing into my path, I give him (or her) a friendly wave, which is an acknowledgement that he's done the right thing (yes, even though he's supposed to do it!). It's my way of increasing their awareness of cyclists and of rewarding right behaviours.

As a group I think we need to do more of this, and not just yell or gesticulate at those drivers who do the wrong thing.

I also make a point of always hand-signalling all of my lane changes (when riding downtown) and turns, just to communicate back to drivers what I'm doing, which creates a bit of an interaction between me and them, and is thus likely to elicit more courteous behaviour. That's my thought, anyway.

Unfortunately...it's an evolution

I think that driver behaviors evolve with time...unfortunately bike culture in Canada, not just in Calgary, is pretty far behind compared to other cities in the world. As the cyclist culture continues to grow, there will be more awareness. This is my optimistic belief at least.

That being said, I biked in Toronto for a good 2 years and despite a pretty established bike culture there, there is still a pretty bad environment of hostility between motorists and cyclists and there are bad eggs on both sides of the war. But there will always be bad eggs no matter what you do.

That being said, does anybody know if the City's (I'm new to the city's bike culture) done any active awareness advocacy and campaigning to help foster mutual respect between cyclists and motorists? I think that something like that would really help.

the city has failed

the city has failed completely at educating motorists and cyclists as to our rights and responsibilities.

and, sadly, I have not heard/seen that anything is in the works.

It's been stressed

This was one of the higher priority items identified within the Calgary Cycling Strategy Committee meetings. We'll see if this is enough to get the City to take up the challenge and actually put together a campaign.

I don't blame the city.

Rather I blame the Province. In Canada Drivers Liceness are a Provinical responsibility. As such I believe the Province should be setting up legislation (like having to retake a drivers test every 5 years - written and driven) and appropriate laws so that we have better drivers. It isn't any picnic out there when dirving either, the idiots don't care who they run into.